Ok, think its about time.....

[lutz4ever]

... this got sorted out PSO's story is connected as you all know but not obvious, to other Phantasy Stars. Yes we know the Espers sealed Dark Force on Ragol, but does anyone have solid facts on Why? When? and Who by. I always understood it was Rune but true facts are not know very much. Anyone have solid info? And no arguing plz

[Redeemer]

perhaps Episode 3 will shed some light on this

[rgam2000]

I'm also very interested, if anybody have solid facts, please discuss.

[rgam2000]

Maybe, didn't sonic team said that episode 3 was going to tie loose ends, and also bring PSO to a closure?

[lutz4ever]

Yes but from the screenshots Ive seen, it appears it just go's on about Coral, but I could be wwrong.

[Redeemer]

If so i didnt hear it and would be news to me

[Benoit]

Since when was PSO's story connected? There has been no concrete evidence at all. Everything conflicts.<br>It's another universe.<p>Phantasy Star Online: Episode III is still on Ragol, somewhat. From what I hear, it's filled with plot, but doesn't give much closure to everything that's open.

[lutz4ever]

Errr maybe looking at the pillars and what Rune and Kyra wear around their neck may shed some light on it for you And what exactly conflicts? AUW (AW) timeline is still used. And Newmans are around. Which were created in the Algo solar system. I have theories but im going to bed now so I cant be bothered to explain at the moment. nite all <br><p>[size=small][Edit by lutz4ever on [TIME]1076372944[/TIME]][/size]

[rgam2000]

I always thought that maybe all the people from both Pioneers, are decendants from the people of Phantasy Star 3 (whoever has played PS3, will know why there is a posibility). Maybe some of your theories have something to do with this Lutz?

[marcus_com]

Phantasy Star Online Episode 3 is, as said full of plot. Though, I dont really know so much about it, cant read japanese. But, PSO has never been about the plot really, and it's funny just playing Episode 3, and the supreme comments spoken by COM always make ya laugh.

[lutz4ever]

Im currently working on a word doc, typed up to full with my theories and reasons why things cant be etc etc, but I know for sure one thing, PSO is very closely lined with the others. The symbol of the Espers is all over the place, and how did the people of Coral come across Newmans? Also Items in the game such as Rika's Claw and Nei's Claw prove there is a link and it is NOT a completely differnt universe. Well Ill put across asap what my theories are but still not got a SOLID reason as to HOW this all happens. As I said they are only theories, so IN theory I could be 100% wrong or right or anything. I'd really appreciate to hear everyone elses idea's too Maybe we can put stuff together. Also ref to the PSIII comment, my first theories were about PS III and I do see how you think that, but I think it only plays a small part in it. And just so you know, the Ruins is NOT the Alisa III <p>[size=small][Edit by lutz4ever on [TIME]1076436545[/TIME]][/size]<p>[size=small][Edit by lutz4ever on [TIME]1076436574[/TIME]][/size]<br><p>[size=small][Edit by lutz4ever on [TIME]1076436635[/TIME]][/size]

[Benoit]

-Yes, the symbol on the pillars is the Esper's. But the Pioneers don't recognize it. That's your first bump right there. They would have found it in historical records for sure.<br>-The pillars indeed represent the three planets. But again, they don't recognize them, nor do they recognize MUUT DITTS POUMN, which would be obvious to them.<br>-Newmans are there, but that's all the explanation we get. We do know, however, that they have indefinite life spans, if we are to believe Sue's words. If that is true, it's not the the same as a Numan, since Seed worked 1000 years on perfecting the Numan race, and something like an indefinite life span would be unheard of.<p>What conflicts is that if Numans are around, the game MUST take place after Phantasy Star IV, and the people must be Algolians. But, they're not. They don't recognize any Algolian symbol.<br>And if they are not Parmanians, who are they?<br>Earthmen? That's near impossible since the last of their race was killed by the hands of Rolf after Phantasy Star II. It is possible they would have known the Numan project of Phantasy Star II, though.<br>People from Copto, Alisaland? But there's a Newman problem again. They don't know about Numans. If they contacted Algol somewhere after Phantasy Star IV, maybe they would, but then we get to the first problem again. They don't recognize Algolian symbols.<br>Worldship travelers? They don't know about the Numan either, and if they had contact with Algol, they would know some Algolian symbols.<p>As you can see, there's no way to properly connect the series. It was never meant to. It's an RPG with Phantasy Star sausage. That's why we see the races, Techniques and Phantasy Star references.

[lutz4ever]

I never once said that they actually recognise the symbol on the pillars. I think Numans are simply Newmans with a different spelling. Not excusable. And how can u say that it has NO proper link to the previous games when it stares you in the face you said it yourself, the Esper symbol, MUUT DITTS POUMN. Motavia Dezolis Palma. We know that is true from the weapon Heart of Poumn. Alis' Claw, which would explain the alternative name, Heart of Palma. I am not wanting to say what DOESNT connect them I want to discuss what DOES connect them and there is far more that does connect them that doesnt. And with you saying that it does take place after PSIV of course it does, everyone has worked out the game takes place in AUW 3084. LONG after PSIV. They are not Earthmen they are simply Coral people. The idea of them having the technology to have Numans, simply could be a number of things. Too many theories there to say. Somehow the Government of Coral KNEW there there was a Dark Force on Ragol, wanting to harness its energy, but how? They KNEW that it was there. Why? I couldnt say for sure. This is what i want to know. Lets not argue theories but work out from eachothers.

[SheWren]

Poetic Licences and legendary references...that's all I think. <br>Alis NEVER used any Claw: Heart of Poumn cannot be considered as a proof of the Algolian heritage. Unless Sonic Team has made a huge mistake...

[lutz4ever]

I never said it was! What I WAS reffering to was simply the use of the term Poumn as the name for the Planet Palma meaning a definate link between PSO and PS. Read more carefully!