Diffuculty of Ultimate

[Benoit]

Usually it doesn't even take Ultimate to kill people with no skill. :p

[Etra McGarl]

I just got into ultimate over the weakend and i was very supprized at how much more powerfull every thing got lol. I wasn't expecting enemies to look different either or have over 1500 hp. Heh i'm a FOmar so my attacks do like 12-35(87-160 with G-ASSASSIN ARMS). I'm a little scared now since i read that my spells will be useless in the mines*sniffle* !@#$ right now i'm level 78 what should i be at to take on Ral del le(sorry if i misspelled).

[Butoden]

If this is your first time, you should try leveling in the Ultimate Forest until your 90ish - 100, then try Caves...

[SheWren]

It's not true: Techniques DO works in Ultimate Mine! What someone has not noticed is that enemies' sensibility to techniques are different: if you killed robots easy with Zonde family till now, in Ult Mine it's pretty useless (except for Barants, but I'm not sure)...try the Foie family instead. If you don't own a good weapon, techniques are your only way to reach the end...try all of them and discover the best one for each enemy.<p>If you want I can give some advise for Dal Ra Lie.<p>[size=small][Edit by SheWren on [TIME]1079646061[/TIME]][/size]

[Benoit]

It's in the Dreamcast version that Techniques were bad starting Ultimate Mine. On PSO: Episode I & II they will have some effect.<p>For Dal Ra Lie you should get some more levels.

[Etra McGarl]

OK i guess i'll level a bit then, thanks for the advice.

[Neo48]

You say your new. Well heres what i'd say for you being a FOmar. Use a striker weapon, prefferably for the defense. Because you are a force you should be able to beat the caves at lvl 90. Use: A shield that adds defense(ie. custom barrier, secret gear), a high level deband, mabee about lvl 22(it would be a good idea to find one or use wizard technique. use the highest defense adding armour available. Because your force you should be able to beat the caves easily. You will have lots of room and spells are pretty strong. (especially for dal ral ie, did i spell that right?lol) Also as i always say, you should have a lvl 200 mag that has stats towards your characters skills when starting ultimate.

[jherm]

ya, u need to stack ur defense. im humar and i had 4 metal/body's equipped and beat dal ra lie and lvl like, 90-95. but i even equipped my angry fist just for hte extra dfp add. i survived that stupid attack where crawls on the roof and drops rocks on u with a whopping 5 hp. so ya, that goes for most ny boss, but as i lately learned, except falz...nyway wut goes for most ny boss is stack ur dfp!

[SheWren]

I couldn't post it yesterday 'cause of a script error:<p>The most important thing for a Force is to use the right technique, avoid all the attack, have a good reserve of TP and recovery items. Good if you have a MIND mag.<p>If You want I can give more accurate advise to win this battle.

[Etra McGarl]

No thanks for the offer on advice. I like to fight bosses not knowing whats gonna happen but ya my MAG has 100 mind although my defense on my MAG is only 15 lol I use a hildabear cane. So I get good defense and mst and at what I read I should be good as long as a level a little first,I have only 3 metal body's though.

[Neo48]

My forces mag goes as follows:<br>DEF:25<br>POW:25<br>ATA:10<br>MIND:140<br>