Proof that DarkFalz is eternal and why he can exist after ps

[Lord Khyron]

I shall use these wondeful lines of PLOT from Ep 2..<p> "IT" was still alive.<br> Now that I think about it...<br> The concept of death doesn't apply to "IT." We just didn't understand.<br> That is why the ancients have kept "IT." sealed inside that spaceship,<br> deep beneath the surface of this planet.<br> Mysterious Photons... An eternal lifeform...<br> Now I can see why all the doctors were so excited...<p>And this is FLOWEN's own words! And if DF can survive getting it's ass kicked by Flowen and still live, and If it can still be alive after you DESTROY It.. And if it can absorb Rico to get a new form..<p>This thing is ETERNAL and it'll always exist.. lol<br>

[LaconianShot]

Well that's the point of Dark Falz...it'll exist wherever men go. They can't defeat Dark Falz because, really, it exists inside of them. What the scientists were doing...it wasn't really right...experimenting with things completely out of their control, and THAT is why Dark Falz continued to exist after Profound Darkness was destroyed. More or less, DF is the manifestation of evil in the PS universes...all of the people's grief and hate continued to revive it in the millenial cycle, not just PD.

[Benoit]

What you forget, Lord Khyron, is that this counts for PSO, and not for the original series.<br>Le Roof even contradicts what Flowen said, since Dark Force can't come back without the Profound Darkness, who is DEAD.

[ThePeaGuy]

Benoit is right. Dark Force cannot exist without the Profound Darkness because Dark Force is the most intense part of the Profound Darkness' spirit that breaks free of the seal every 1000 years to find a suitable host in order to take physical form, so that it can be able to destroy the three planets of Algo to weaken the seal completely. Right? That's the sole purpose of Dark Force's existance - to destroy the seal and create a lot of anger, hatred, pain, greed and suffering upon the three worlds of Algo, so that it helps to resurrect the Profound Darkness.<p>[size=small][Edit by ThePeaGuy on [TIME]1077843922[/TIME]][/size]<br><p>[size=small][Edit by ThePeaGuy on [TIME]1077917319[/TIME]][/size]

[Lord Khyron]

DF is not meant to ressurect the PD, The PD has been sealed away for aeons. Therefore the anger and hatred comes out to EXACT revenge.<p>The GL no longer exists, So therefore all that are left are the Motavians, Dezolians and Palmans she created to watch the seal. DF wants THEM destroyed.<p>DF is a being with only one purpose: REVENGE. It is not meant to ressurect the PD, It is a instrument and anger and hatred.<p>The compendium states Lashiec opened the seal and DF escaped, And it also states that the seal cannot be perfectly resealed and something will escape 1000 years later.<p>The Elsydeon, according to the compendium, is the only thing that can SEAL the Profound Darkness away. <p>So they seal the PD away, Big deal. Xe-A-Thouls, Finds, Sabers and Centaur like beings will always exist, Some evil person will tap into the edge and they will escape.<p>Hell, they haunted Ladea tower.<p>And I doubt DF at the end of ps 3 would LIE and TRY TO SCARE everyone off.<p>He distinctly says in most of the endings that he will return in 1000 years. Also the other world ship says this.<p>THe Edge will always exist, Regardless of perfect seal or not. Without Parma, Algo's seal will always be weak. In due time someone like LASHIEC could cast a spell and get DF back out..<p>In which case Elsydeon comes again.<p>Nei weapons cannot defeat a Dark Force. Rolf never defeated the one the earthmen had, It survived to escape on the worldships.<p>Dark Force will always exist<p>Even if you doubt he will EXIST, the EDGE WILL ALWAYS EXIST.<p>PROPHALUS and minions in the EDGE will always exist, And they can always be taken out.<p>SO take it as you will, DF can exist, It did on Lashiec, It did feeding off Rulakir.. It exists in PSO.

[Benoit]

I see you still manage to come up with that flawed theory. :p <br> <blockquote>DF is a being with only one purpose: REVENGE. It is not meant to ressurect the PD, It is a instrument and anger and hatred.</blockquote> <br>That's his purpose only AFTER the Profound Darkness has been killed/sealed. And except from the Dark Force of PSIII, there's no other one alive.<br> <blockquote>The compendium states Lashiec opened the seal and DF escaped, And it also states that the seal cannot be perfectly resealed and something will escape 1000 years later.</blockquote> <br>That's the Japanese version of the story. Who knows they played around with it, since we don't know the Japanese PSI manual says. In the end, it's the same, though. A Dark Force will come out every 1000 years because of the Profound Darkness releasing it.<br> <blockquote>So they seal the PD away, Big deal. Xe-A-Thouls, Finds, Sabers and Centaur like beings will always exist, Some evil person will tap into the edge and they will escape.</blockquote> <br>You don't know if the Edge still exists. It could have been destroyed along with the Profound Darkness. Even then, I doubt someone would be able to open the Edge.<br> <blockquote>And I doubt DF at the end of ps 3 would LIE and TRY TO SCARE everyone off.</blockquote> <br>And why not? He just believes the Profound Darkness still exists to bring him back. Also remember that the game was made before PSIV.<br> <blockquote>THe Edge will always exist, Regardless of perfect seal or not. Without Parma, Algo's seal will always be weak. In due time someone like LASHIEC could cast a spell and get DF back out..</blockquote> <br>Yes, the seal will be weak. But there's no Profound Darkness anymore to get Dark Forces through it. And Lashiec is dead. He can't come back without Dark Force feeding him.<br> <blockquote>Nei weapons cannot defeat a Dark Force. Rolf never defeated the one the earthmen had, It survived to escape on the worldships.</blockquote> <br>We don't know that for sure.<br> <blockquote>SO take it as you will, DF can exist, It did on Lashiec, It did feeding off Rulakir.. It exists in PSO.</blockquote> <br>PSO is a separate universe.<p>Give the people of Algo some rest, dammit.

[ThePeaGuy]

This is just my own opinion, but I don't think that the Profound Darkness was actually destroyed by the power of Elysedon. Maybe that's the reason why a part of itself, Dark Force, still remains in the universe. Regardless, the Phantasy Star storyline has truly ended by the climax of PS4. PSO, apparently, has no relation whatsoever to the original storyline. Evil is destroyed, the Algo solar system lives in eternal peace, the story has ended.<p>Get over it.<p>[size=small][Edit by ThePeaGuy on [TIME]1077891114[/TIME]][/size]<p>[size=small][Edit by ThePeaGuy on [TIME]1077917553[/TIME]][/size]<p>[size=small][Edit by ThePeaGuy on [TIME]1077917580[/TIME]][/size]<br><p>[size=small][Edit by ThePeaGuy on [TIME]1077930034[/TIME]][/size]

[LaconianShot]

Yeah, PSO is still a seperate universe, but things like DF lead fans to believe that Df somehow survived. Well, as I said before DF is the manifestation of peoples grief and hate. So, though the evil in PSO IS a DF, it's not to say that they are the same DF. Since they are different universes, it's possible that a nearly indentical evil entity has developed. Every universe has it's evil entity...we have our devil (sorry if I'm offending anyone) and <b> every</b> PS universe has it's DF...merely, I think, as a way of representing evil...and this IS Phantasy Star, after all, so they chose to represent evil in a most familiar way to PS fans.

[gm2987]

Another thing its never really said the Great light was distoryed or anything it just says that it had to leave algo... doesn't mean its gone just not in algo...

[Benoit]

But the Phantasy Star Compendium suggests otherwise, though...

[Siren]

I'm sorry, Benoit, what compendium are you referring to?<p>Is it the timeline on this site?<p>and also, as you yourself stated-<br> <blockquote>That's the Japanese version of the story. Who knows they played around with it,</blockquote> <p>Oh, finally, I have the PS1 manual in my PS Collection manual and it states the that Lashiec was getting old, when a cult appeared and promised everlasting life, and he joined. Shortly after strange monsters appeared.<p>What does the compendium say in comparison to this? Are they at all similar? If I knew where to find this compendium I could find out myself. ~_~

[Benoit]

You can find the translation of the Compendium along with other translation here, thanks to Rebecca Capowski:<br>http://home.att.net/~RCgamusic/ps.htm<p>I was referring to the Japanese PSI manual. I would like to know if says the same as in the Compendium, because they might have played around with some information.

[Siren]

Thanks Benoit, I'll go check that out.

[ill-intent]

All of this doesn't really matter. If a story wants to use Dark Force (Falz), it doesn't take real effort. The whole thing is a product of the splitting of the 2 great beings long ago, right? (Light and Dark) So, what makes you think that was the ONLY member of that race? In theory, there could be hundreds of them all over the universe each going through that stage of evolution. <br> Originally, that's what I thought the plot of PSO was. Millenia later, the people of a long free Algo search for a new home only to find it holds the same curse they fought so long to shake.

[PhanGarrett]

I would just like to take a moment and point out that no matter how you do your math, Phantasy Star 3's Dark Force was around after the destruction of the Profound Darkness by several decades-- so it's hard coded into the original series that yes, Dark Force can exist without the Profound Darkness.