Phantasy Star Generation 2: English Translation

[Blaw-]

Phallus, Farce and Fars but I don't see nothing about Falz or even Force

That's precisely what I say since the beginning, Falz is as wrong as Force if we really want to be nitpicky. The only difference is that Force make sense with the japanese dialog, when I'm still waiting for someone to explain me the meaning of this Falz word. People want it and no one would know what it mean, pretty weird, eh?

Like I said, it's a complicated matter riddled with theories, personal preferences and possible typos from the creators' side...
Maybe it'd be better to just let the whole thing slide and focus on the amazing stuff that is about come out from the oven

It's already have been changed so I don't even see what it still need a debate, even if the fact it got changed doesn't mean it's the proper name, so I'll leave those people debate with themselves, it's just a waste of time.

But all the texts haven't been changed yet so yeah, this little name change cause a pretty much big delay because I still can't create the patch because of that.

[xenowildfire]

Like I said, it's a complicated matter riddled with theories, personal preferences and possible typos from the creators' side...
Maybe it'd be better to just let the whole thing slide and focus on the amazing stuff that is about come out from the oven

I totally agree with you there.

[xenowildfire]

Phallus, Farce and Fars but I don't see nothing about Falz or even Force

That's precisely what I say since the beginning, Falz is as wrong as Force if we really want to be nitpicky. The only difference is that Force make sense with the japanese dialog, when I'm still waiting for someone to explain me the meaning of this Falz word.

I think Dark Force sounds cooler than DarkFalz, I was even like that when I was a kid and first played Phantasy Star after playing PSII.
I might add I didn't know the limits they was working with on the SMS.
I do know in Phantasy Star Online it's Dark Phallus or even just Phallus, I can't remember it has been so long since I played the game.

[xrick]

HUH?! Dark Phallus on PSO?! It's always been Dark Falz!!! I know quite well because my brother invested his first years as an MMORPG player on that one game.
Actually, I came to know of the Phantasy Star series thanks to PSO.

And nowadays, that brother of mine is engrossed on FF for dear life, with FF14 being his prime choice of MMORPG

[xenowildfire]

Dark Force (ダーク・ファラス, dāku farasu in the Japanese version, sometimes romanized as "Dark Phallus" [1]) is the major recurring villain and plot element in the Phantasy Star series of video games. It is featured as a major boss in each game of the series, typically being discovered as the hidden source of recent calamities. Different games in the series give the entity different names, with Phantasy Star and Phantasy Star Online referring to it as "Dark Falz" and Phantasy Star II, Phantasy Star III and Phantasy Star IV referring to it as "Dark Force." In this article, Dark Force, the common name used by English speakers, will be used.

[xenowildfire]

HUH?! Dark Phallus on PSO?! It's always been Dark Falz!!! I know quite well because my brother invested his first years as an MMORPG player on that one game.
Actually, I came to know of the Phantasy Star series thanks to PSO.

And nowadays, that brother of mine is engrossed on FF for dear life, with FF14 being his prime choice of MMORPG

When I played Phantasy Star Online for The Dreamcast I faced the final boss and the name was Dark Phallus in one of his forms, but it has been since 2003 or 2004 since I have played the game.
Cause when I faced him I said Dark Force or Darkfalz and it came up Dark Phallus. I will have to play back thru the game.
Unless it was another boss idk

[xrick]

Believe me, man... In PSO, I've never seen the Final Boss with Dark Phallus as name... Never.

Also, you shouldn't need to make that many double posts, there's an EDIT button on the right of each of your posts.

[xenowildfire]

Believe me, man... In PSO, I've never seen the Final Boss with Dark Phallus as name... Never.

Also, you shouldn't need to make that many double posts, there's an EDIT button on the right of each of your posts.

Ok my brother says the same thing as you so I may be wrong. I will have to play back thru the game to see.
Sorry about double post.

[xrick]

Check on Youtube, PSO-World or something. It may be faster that way, I guess.

EDIT: Just checked Youtube, Google, Wikis, whatever about ダークファルス and it seems that it's been made official that, despite the disparity in translation, it's name is Dark Falz.
PSO2, for example, uses the japanese name during conversations but in Battle each boss has Falz ---, so I guess it may really be a case of translation disparity... Not surprised...

[Kalrod]

余談

設定上オリジナルのダークファルスも少なからず存在する。
ダークファルスと共存する者、ダークファルスを喰った者、あるいは宇宙の守護神であるダークファルスなどと根底から違う設定のものまで掘り下げていけばきりがないほど。

また、当初ダークファルスの英文正式スペルは「Dark Phallus」であったが、PSO以降は「Dark Falz」に変更されている。なぜなのか知りたい人は単語を直訳して察せられたし。

…ぶっちゃけて言うと旧表記はあの魔王様と同義語なのである。
初代の頃は、細かい意味をあまり気にせずにつけた為か、海外版を展開する時にスタッフが本来の意味を知る事になったという。その為か英語圏では、Iの頃は“DARKFALZ”という表記という、ドイツ語の読みに合わせた強引な当て字になっている。FALZ＝ドイツ語で折り目

II～IVでは“Dark Force”と改められたが、PSO以降は日本版ともども“Dark Falz”表記に落ち着いている。

Google Translation
Digression

Set on the original dark Fars also exist not a little.
Those who coexist with dark Fars, who was eaten the dark phallus, or as there is no Ikebakiri in depth is the guardian deity of the universe dark Fars such as to those from the ground different settings.

Furthermore, the English spelling formal originally dark phallus has a "Dark Phallus", PSO after it has been changed to "Dark Falz". to and want to know why that person was Sasse by literal translation the word.

... It and say, Admit and old notation is What that devil like a synonym.
When I was a first generation, or because it was attached without too much care about a fine sense, and that the staff has become to know the original meaning when you expand the overseas edition. In its order or English-speaking countries, that notation is "DARKFALZ" the days of I, and have become aggressive phonetic equivalent tailored to read German. FALZ = crease in German

II ~ it was changed to the "Dark Force" in IV, but later PSO are settled in Japan version in company "Dark Falz" notation.

ダーク・ファルス＝Ｄａｒｋ Ｆａｌｚ

・・・となっています。ちなみにダーク・ファルスのつづりですが、
日本の物と違います。日本は「Ｆａｌｚ」ではなく「Ｐｈａｌｌｕｓ」です。
何でスペルを変えたかというと多分日本版の意味が(以下検閲により削除)

ダークファルス＝Ｄａｒｋ　Ｆｏｒｃｅ

う～ん，やっぱりダーちゃんのスペルが違う。(気になる方は辞書引いてください)

Google Translation
Dark Fars = Dark Falz

It has become a .... By the way, there is a dark Fars of spelling,
It is different from the Japanese ones. Japan is "Phallus" instead of "Falz".
What meaning of perhaps Japan version and say whether changing the spelling is (or less removed by the censorship)

Dark Fars = Dark Force

Hmmm, still spell of Dah-chan is different. (Please pull dictionary worring)

　そうそう、ダークファルスの意味なんだけど、英語では「Dark Phallus」。直訳すると・・・「闇の○○○」と、放送禁止用語が(笑)。どうしても知りたい人は辞書を引きましょう。語源となっているギリシャ語では「ふくらむもの」って意味もあるから・・・「闇をふくらませる者」って意味になる？まぁ英語の見地から言えば「闇を注入する者」とか「闇の心を植え付ける」とかって意味になるかな。さすがに英語圏でこの名前はまずいから、「Dark Falls」とか「Dark Force(ＰＳ３のみ)」ってなってるみたい。しかしなんだ、直訳を考えた上で・・・ＰＳＯではリコにとりついたってことを考えると・・・１８禁のネタになるなぁ(爆)。

Google Translation
Oh yeah, it's meaning of dark phallus, in English "Dark Phallus". When literal translation and ... "darkness of ○○○" Seven Dirty Words is (laughs). Really people you want to know Let's pull the dictionary. In Greek that is the etymology to become that mean ... because there is also that mean the "swell thing," "to inflate the darkness who"? Well I wonder if speaking from the point of view of English make sense to me Toka or "person who injected the darkness," "instill the darkness of the mind." Because indeed this name is bad in the English-speaking world, it seems has become me "Dark Falls" or "Dark Force (PS3 only)". But What, I wonder become story of ... 18 prohibited to think that it was I clung to Rico in ··· PSO on considering the literal translation (explosion).

http://dic.pixiv.net/a/%E3%83%80%E3%83% ... B%E3%82%B9
http://homepage2.nifty.com/psclub/DIFFERENCE.htm
http://a-zap.net/GPk1.htm

The original was Dark Phallus.

In the game's final level, the Profound Darkness' dimensional prison, the heroes may randomly encounter a powerful enemy called "Prophallus". This special monster only ever appears one at a time, and is identical in appearance to the version of Dark Force seen in the original Phantasy Star. Presumably, these are additional manifestations of Dark Force the Profound Darkness sends at the heroes prior to their confrontation with it.

Interestingly, this enemy's name gives credence to the aforementioned "Dark Phallus" romanization.

http://gaming.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Force
http://www.pscave.com/ps4/enemies/prophallus.shtml



Official Artwork

http://blueskiesdaily.com/2014/08/05/di ... llections/

[Reiska]

Interesting that the Japanese fan page also explores whether "Falz"'s German meaning could have significance.

[Tryphon]

Do you guys really think DF looks like a phallus ?

[Kalrod]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phallus

Etymology
Phallus is a loanword from Latin phallus, itself borrowed from Greek φαλλός, which is ultimately a derivation from the Proto-Indo-European root *bʰel- "to inflate, swell". Compare with Old Norse (and modern Icelandic) boli "bull", Old English bulluc "bullock", Greek φαλλή "whale".

Well, I think the japanese people said that the original name was Dark Phallus and it was later changed to Dark Falz. That's it.

[Tryphon]

Yuji Naka : We must absolutely find a name for our big bad boss...
Rieko Kodama : I have a great name in mind : Phallus. It sounds greek, mythological
Yuji Naka : Great! Let's say "Dark Phallus", like Darth Vader. A sith god, awesome!

Later:
Localizer: Dark dick ???

[Kalrod]

Yuji Naka : We must absolutely find a name for our big bad boss...
Rieko Kodama : I have a great name in mind : Phallus. It sounds greek, mythological
Yuji Naka : Great! Let's say "Dark Phallus", like Darth Vader. A sith god, awesome!

Later:
Localizer: Dark dick ???

I think it was exactly like that, you're good.
But I think Black Cock would be more appropriate.