The true ending of PSII. (spoilers)

[ThePeaGuy]

Franklin Delano Roosevelt was the 32nd President of the United States of America. He is well known for his involvement in the Second World War by stopping the Japanese invasion of Pearl Harbour, and his establishment of the 'grand alliance' against the Axis powers that was mainly represented by Nazi Germany, Italy and Japan - the Allies - as well as their defeat. One of the reasons why he became involved in the war was because of the Great Depression of America, which greatly effected their economy before the war spreaded throughout the entire world. Hope this information is mostly accurate, PSP. <p>Now, back on topic...<p>I've never understood the open ending on PS2, which is one of the main reasons why I dislike this game. How the hell can Rolf and co stop a whole colony of Earthmen with just 8 people, regardless if they use techniques or not, and then destroy the enemy base Noah, as well as their lives? It just seems illogical. If there was a bigger resistance from Algo teleported to Noah by Lutz himself, that I can fully understand, because it shows that Algo as a whole want to liberate themselves from their dependency of the almighty AI-turned-bad, the Mother Brain, since Rolf showed them the way 'somewhat'.<p>Yes, I know this is just a mere video game, but most RPG storylines do use an ounce of consistency in them, regardless if they're over 10 years old or not.<p>Hopefully, there will be more storyline development of what happened to the protagonists of PSII in the remake.<p>[size=small][Edit by ThePeaGuy on [TIME]1107120779[/TIME]][/size]<br><p>[size=small][Edit by ThePeaGuy on [TIME]1107122070[/TIME]][/size]

[Saner2]

helloo the answers is <b>MEGID</b>, the ultimate destruction technique. gameplay wise it could be used, but I believe storywise it was never used until Rolf needed it to destroy everyone including the ship.

[ThePeaGuy]

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by Saner2</i><p>helloo the answers is <b>MEGID</b>, the ultimate destruction technique. gameplay wise it could be used, but I believe storywise it was never used until Rolf needed it to destroy everyone including the ship.<br></blockquote><p>The techniques of PS2 were only used for the gameplay aspects of the game, not the storyline itself. If, storywise, Megid is meant to destroy everything, then what was the point of acquiring the Nei weapons for to defeat Dark Force and its followers in the game if Rolf/Eushys has the power to destoy everything?<p>

[Benoit]

Hmm, that rings a bell. I indeed encountered the name some months before, in an article about the two nuclear bombs that fell on two different places in Japan.<p>Before that, our teacher had talked about him, I think, but the name probably didn't stood out because I hadn't seen it written.<p>Thanks for the refreshment, ThePeaGuy.

[ThePeaGuy]

You're welcome, Benoit.<p>Now, as for the topic itself... what do you feel in regards to my opinion of the open ending of PS2 itself?

[Benoit]

To each their own, I guess.<br>I admit that I dislike open endings. However, PSII's was well done in the way that it gave you enough clues and tidbits to figure out the ending on your own, and create your view. Everyone can see the ending differently.<p>That's something no other game has achieved, I think.

[PSP]

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by ThePeaGuy</i><br>Franklin Delano Roosevelt was the 32nd President of the United States of America. He is well known for his involvement in the Second World War by stopping the Japanese invasion of Pearl Harbour, and his establishment of the 'grand alliance' against the Axis powers that was mainly represented by Nazi Germany, Italy and Japan - the Allies - as well as their defeat. One of the reasons why he became involved in the war was because of the Great Depression of America, which greatly effected their economy before the war spreaded throughout the entire world. Hope this information is mostly accurate, PSP. <br></blockquote><p>Eh, the main catalyst was the Pearl Harbor attack. Before that, the isolationists in the country wouldn't allow us to go to war, despite the fact that Europe was already in the midst of war. He also instituted a series of reforms called "The New Deal" which were meant to bring the U.S. out of the Great Depression (though WWII did play a major role due to the resultant increase in industrialization), and he also instituted the Social Security system. He was also the only President elected more than 2 times (4 terms, though he died of polio in the early part of his 4th term), and the reason why the 22nd amendment to the U.S. Constitution was brought into being, limiting a President to no more than 2 terms.<p>That's just some of what I recall. If you want to know more (it's been awhile since I studied U.S. history), I'd suggest a internet search. I just found it incredibly stupid of Benoit to come and voice ignorance about a pretty important political figure of the past...especially when a quick Google search probably would have given him more than you ever needed to know.<p>*ahem* Anyway...<p>I wrote a short fanfic once, 8 or so years ago, where I had Eusis use Megid as a last attempt to destroy the spaceship, Noah. It seemed to make sense, seeing as the survivors of Earth *must* have been defeated somehow, otherwise Algo would have been conquered. How the Neisword made it back and became Elsydeon...eh, a wizard did it <p>-Corey<br><p>[size=small][Edit by PSP on [TIME]1107128573[/TIME]][/size]

[Lord Khyron]

<blockquote>Exactly. Who is Roosevelt? <br>There's a plaza named after him in Antwerp, where all the busses from the region gather, that's all I know. </blockquote><p>Hearing Benoit say that.. I just have to remember 2 lines from Sealab 2021..<p><Hans> The dutch resistance was critical to the allies driving off the Germans during WWII<br><Sparks> Yeah, go tell that to Anne Frank.<p>It has a valid point.. <br><p>[size=small][Edit by Lord Khyron on [TIME]1107129151[/TIME]][/size]

[Siren]

<blockquote>...wow, you're really stupid.</blockquote> <p>Don't be an *sshole. It's disappointing that he doesn't know, but that's no excuse for lack of tact. Do you think if rudeness was painful that anyone would be rude?<p>I believe Rolf and party died in their fight with the Earth Men. They were hopelessly outnumbered, and we have to remember how old the Earth Men were. They most likely had weapons to match anything Rolf's party had. They are the founders of any PSII-era Algol technology--designers of any weapons systems attainable--and a likely match weapons-wise. <p>Also, Megid may or may not posess the ability to kill 100 000 Earth Men, but it has the ability to blow a hole in the spaceship Noah. In the ending credits, we are presented with a shot of Dezo, and nearing the end a flash of light in orbit, most likely Noah. A large hole would be irrepairable, and lack of oxygen would kill everyone inside. Of course, I don't think any of them were alive to suffer suffication, which brings me to my next point... <p>I believe the use Megid, in an attempt to destroy the Earthmen, killed Rolf and his party. The last panel shows Rolf gritting his teeth, slowly being bathed in white light. In a final attempt to destroy the Earthmen, Rolf's over-exertion, combined with his anger could result in a sort of over-drive Megid.<p>As for the Nei Sword being Elsydeon...I don't know. We had a thread a while back, and it was never resolved. I find it unlikely, though, that Rolf would send one party member back; the fight belonged to all of them, and I don't think Rolf would take that away from them.<br><p>[size=small][Edit by Siren on [TIME]1107138270[/TIME]][/size]

[Lord Khyron]

The fact that the Nei weapons are not findable in PS IV is proof that they were destroyed/lost in the fight with the Earthmen...<p>The Compendium also states the Elsydeon was created to repair the seal of the Algo system when it came time..<p>According to PS IV, the sword was needed, because the seal's final moments came. RUne even agrees with Le Roof on this.<p>The NEi weapons were lost in the earthmen fight. If they weren't then they would be in PS IV. <p>Following the compendium, Lutz made the NEi weapons to fight Dark Force again. That was his purpose, to stay alive so that someone could defeat DF in 1000 years.<p>Lashiec caused it all.

[Shell Presto]

I agree that no one on the ship survived Rolf's Megid attack, and no one had to. Lutz couldn't fight for himself, but he was most likely able to know everything that happened. He communicated telepathically with Rolf on the ship, telling him that he sensed more people, so he would know of Rolf's last stand against the Earthmen and Lutz would live to tell the tale.<p>As for the Nei sword, I believe it is seperate from Elysdeon. It was magically constructed, and such magic could be channeled into other weapons. I believe this is why the end weapons in PSIII become Nei weapons, because it's a man-made (or esper-made, if you will) weapon, not the Elysdeon, which was god-made as a key to seal the darkness.

[Lietz]

Did'nt the spaceship they were on crash on our (Earth's) moon?<p>Also, I think I remember somewhere(dont remember) that becuse of the spaceship crashing on the moon, in the year 1999, earthlings used the tech to build a ship to travel to algo also wren or whoever had to be on the ship because earthings used what was left of him to make the wren type robots. I think it was a paradox.

[Monocromatico]

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by Lietz</i><p>Did'nt the spaceship they were on crash on our (Earth's) moon?<p>Also, I think I remember somewhere(dont remember) that becuse of the spaceship crashing on the moon, in the year 1999, earthlings used the tech to build a ship to travel to algo also wren or whoever had to be on the ship because earthings used what was left of him to make the wren type robots. I think it was a paradox.<br></blockquote><p>Oh no, not again...<p>PS3 has 4 endings. Only one of them has this moon crashing episode. The other 3 don´t. There is no "true" ending for PS3, all the four are equally valid. Stating anything based on the assumption that one of the endings was true is like me saying that birds fly because I have psychic powers - makes sense in some level, but is it true?.

[ThePeaGuy]

Moon crashing ending? The only 4 endings in ps3 I recall are:<p>- the Sun evasion ending (Crys' ending)<br>- the Neo Palm encounter ending (Sean's ending)<br>- the Earth ending (Aron's ending)<br>- the Black Hole evasion ending (Adan's ending)<p>I don't remember seeing a moon crashing ending in the game... I could be wrong, though.

[Malakai]

Uh, there is no moon-crashing ending to my memory either. Hmmm, this gives me an excuse to play PSIII again!