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Phantasy Star 2 Remake - Screen Shots have been out!

Postby PSP » Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:00 am

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by Demon Child</i><br>And what on earth is the project Settei? :? If I knew what the heck that was and where it could be found maybe I'd agree with that last part but until then I'll just ignore it.<br></blockquote><p>http://home.att.net/~RCgamusic/pswps2.htm<p>You're welcome.<p>-Corey<p>Edit:<p><img src='http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/Endaso/nei.jpg'><p>Uh, call me crazy, but all pictures I've seen of the remake don't have Nei's breasts spilling out...I mean, look at the V anyway...it cuts at the same point as the original design, it just covers more of her actual breasts up top.<br><p>[size=small][Edit by PSP on [TIME]1105931222[/TIME]][/size]
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Phantasy Star 2 Remake - Screen Shots have been out!

Postby Demon Child » Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:19 am

Like I said, I was probably just looking at the wrong pictures. That's proof enough that she's more covered up now so I'll back off from that subject.<p>Now to read that thing.<p>Ok read it. The new designs match as much as the old with the possible exception of the ones modled after specific people. I have no clue what those people look like so I cant say.<br>I dont see Nei with red hair, I dont see Amy or Hugh with black hair and eyes, I dont see Anna with silver hair and I cant tell if the eyes shown are blue or green, Kain still doesn't have black hair(it's grey-ish though so kinda close on that one), and I dont see a blonde haired, violet eyed Shir. <br>So unless they include some of the abilities mentioned, Nei's enemy skills, Hugh and Kain's enemy control, Anna's instant death attack, and Shir's more complex stealing capabilities, this game's most likely just going to be, as Benoit said, the same game with more colors.<p>So until the game's released you cant really say that it's "done right", unless of course that link I was just given is inacurate.<p>[size=small][Edit by Demon Child on [TIME]1105934171[/TIME]][/size]<br><p>[size=small][Edit by Demon Child on [TIME]1105934617[/TIME]][/size]
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Phantasy Star 2 Remake - Screen Shots have been out!

Postby Lord Khyron » Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:14 am

I was referencing to "Anna being dangerously proportioned" and "Amy being fan service for guys who believe girls should be graceful" and Anna being "Fan service too"<p>Other subtle character nuances, as for personalities fit more with the new portraits.<p>Shir looks as pampered as she is supposed to be.<p>Nei's more modest outfit makes her slightly more addractive. <p>To put more emphasis:<p>Rolf:<br>Eusis has been assigned to his current position for two years. Since his character is influenced by the player's conduct, he has a normal, run-of-the-mill personality. But, in such times as when he is investigating the effects the evil creatures are having on the citizens' everyday lives or when he rescued the persecuted Nei, he holds a strong sense of justice.<br>He's a serious type of person, burning with a sense of duty, but he also has a careless, reckless side to him. He has a very frank persona upon which sarcasm is lost.<p>Rudo:<br>His body is a mass of muscles, but he's not a macho-man type. He wears a long, ashen-gray coat. (He's a fan-service character for middle- and high-school and college students who know bitterness and despondence.( He's a stoic, cool-headed man.<br>He should harbor complicated thoughts toward the evil creatures because they killed his family, but he never lets them show, always silently smiling. Once, he rescued a child single-handedly from the depths of a deep cave where evil creatures were nesting and made a name for himself as a Hunter; in his heart of hearts, however, he truly wanted to very soon make a mistake in hunting the evil creatures and die. He's a person who has the potential for suicide. That is the reason why, albeit unconsciously, he has a tendency to seek out dangerous jobs<p>Amy<br>Her bobbed hairstyle betrays her youthfulness more than her practicality. A fan-service character for old-fashioned males who think that girls should be graceful.<br>Born into a normal family, came to lead a normal like. Through her own abilities and a fluke twist of fate, she followed the path of medicine. She is currently a female doctor who has just finished her internship. At first glance, she impresses one as mild and delicate, she is actually an independent and, at heart, strong girl. She will sacrifice herself to protect the party. It's a pity that she seems insular and dour, but that is the fact of the matter. Since she's a pretty girl, though, it's a pretty insularness and dourness. [Note: the word used here is "nekura", which means "dark-natured", "introverted", "dour", "glum", "moody", and "insular". I've selected the above two, but it really isn't clear which meaning the text intends.]<p>Anna<br>A bit dangerously proportioned. Fan-service character for middle- and high-school and college students who like anime.<br>Having lost both parents at an early age, she lives among the dregs of society. Upon the appearance of the evil creatures, she sets herself up as a Hunter, but most recently she turned into a Counter-Hunter.<br>There are many persons of evil nature among the Hunters; it happens frequently that a Hunter turns around and become the "boss" of a town they were "protecting" or turns into a bandit. Those employed to hunt those evil Hunters down are called Counter-Hunters. Both when she was a Hunter and when she became a Counter-Hunter, she is a girl who possesses slightly sadistic tendencies in the thrill of the chase. That is to say, she is not in the job for the money - she is a natural-born Hunter.<p>Kain<br>If you look at the game settei, you see that Kinds's heart goes out to Nei. At about the time that Kinds came to play an active part in the proceesings, Nei lost her life in the battle with Neifirst.<br>And to think that, love having blossomed in such a short period of time between Kinds and Nei, that Nei would end up dead...... For Kinds, this would be the beginning of a tragedy, since he was planned out as an everyday human. Nei's child, like Nei herself, would age twelve years in one year's time. That is, in a mere five years' time, that child of Nei's would be 60, and in twenty-five years' time her own daughter would be 60, is a tragedy a bit beyond imagination.<br>This paradox is squared away a bit in the settei for IV.<p>Shir<br>Of Irish descent. Has blonde hair and violet eyes. Always neatly primped wherever she is.<br>Raised in a well-to-do family that wants for nothing, having received the highest of education.<br>Thanks to her parents' bequest, she has spent her whole life playing away, but she continues to be a thief as a hobby. She is proudly non-political. She has a habit of slouching. She impresses people as a by-all-appearances haughty girl, but she truly is a passionate, warmhearted girl. The hot blood of heroism flows through her heart, but she's a shy girl and ashamed to admit it.<br>She's also a confused girl... "Rudger's stoicism, Eusis's cuteness, Huey's naïveté, Kinds's stupidity...I just looove everyone!" She'll say "I am Shilka of the wind!" and then suddenly not be there. "No one can catch me!" and "Freedom is sublime" are her favorite sayings, but she really is ensnared by such chivralic virtues as a sense of justice and compassion.<p>The new char designs fit more. As for Nei's earlier outfit, here's another glimpse:<p>http://www.phantasy-star.net/segaart/artsega7.html<br>http://www.phantasy-star.net/art/segaart/neibig.jpg<p>AND! Official Nei artwork that matches the new game<p>http://www.phantasy-star.net/art/compendium/neisketch.jpg<p><p>[size=small][Edit by Lord Khyron on [TIME]1105935862[/TIME]][/size]
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Phantasy Star 2 Remake - Screen Shots have been out!

Postby PSP » Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:24 am

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by Demon Child</i><br>Ok read it. The new designs match as much as the old with the possible exception of the ones modled after specific people. I have no clue what those people look like so I cant say.<br>I dont see Nei with red hair, I dont see Amy or Hugh with black hair and eyes, I dont see Anna with silver hair and I cant tell if the eyes shown are blue or green, Kain still doesn't have black hair(it's grey-ish though so kinda close on that one), and I dont see a blonde haired, violet eyed Shir. <br>So unless they include some of the abilities mentioned, Nei's enemy skills, Hugh and Kain's enemy control, Anna's instant death attack, and Shir's more complex stealing capabilities, this game's most likely just going to be, as Benoit said, the same game with more colors.<p>So until the game's released you cant really say that it's "done right", unless of course that link I was just given is inacurate.<p>[size=small][Edit by Demon Child on [TIME]1105934171[/TIME]][/size]<p>[size=small][Edit by Demon Child on [TIME]1105934617[/TIME]][/size]<br></blockquote><p>You're right. Burn 'em all! Remakes and originals! EVIL! EVIIIIIILLLLLL! :P<p>-Corey
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Phantasy Star 2 Remake - Screen Shots have been out!

Postby Demon Child » Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:44 am

The amount of sarcasm in your post is sickening PSP. I never once said I was against remakes or originals for that matter.<br><p>[size=small][Edit by Demon Child on [TIME]1105937153[/TIME]][/size]
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Phantasy Star 2 Remake - Screen Shots have been out!

Postby Saner2 » Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:02 am

just keep your perspective at a positive note, and you won't have any problems adjusting. <p>after all, anyone can find anything 'wrong' with anything. <p>which is easier than adjusting to change, explaining why some people these days are sometimes nitpicking to the point that only leads them to unsatisfaction. :look:
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Phantasy Star 2 Remake - Screen Shots have been out!

Postby ROMeo » Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:39 am

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by Lord Khyron</i><br>To put more emphasis:<br>Rolf:<br>**snipsnipsnip**[size=small][Edit by Lord Khyron on [TIME]1105935862[/TIME]][/size]<br></blockquote><p>Question, was this "Book of Phantasy Star" published by Sega or otherwise an official source? Most of it sounds good, but some parts sounds a bit funny, and missed others (like Amy abandoning her career to become a wandering samaritan, which is a determinant fact in her character concept)... but then guess I won't get nitpicky as for all I know they may be doing this remake into a re-tell altogether.<p>Heh, a funny idea crossed my mind. You guys remember the PS1 Lunar remakes, each including a "special happy ending/development for fans only"? It would be funny having a way of saving Nei, even if it would go against Phantasy Star's tragic nature.<p><p>[size=small][Edit by ROMeo on [TIME]1105940415[/TIME]][/size]
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Phantasy Star 2 Remake - Screen Shots have been out!

Postby Saner2 » Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:27 am

lol. well I hope the remake....well I doubt it but I love each character's introduction when they knock on Rolf's door and introduce themselves. <p>like Amy says "How do you do?" very graceful and educated just by that line. and she even regards giving her a new name as a "sign of closeness". ^_^ <p>gosh she's so cute. <p>oh here's the new DMG (Data Memory Girl). ^_^ <p>http://cyborgcentral.dynip.com/~psp/girls.jpg <p>well yeah Amy and DMG are not as cute as they were before. but they still are cute. <br>
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Phantasy Star 2 Remake - Screen Shots have been out!

Postby Werefox » Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:30 am

Err....you guys are aware that the character descriptions from the World of Phantasy Star aren't the final versions, aren't you? These descriptions are from a phase of the development of PS2 before the work on the characters and their backgrounds was finished. So both properties and backgrounds have changed on the way from these settei to the final versions, on which the game was based. I think, the reason why this version was published in the book is, that they wanted to give the readers some insight into the development process. Personally, I wouldn't give them too much weight in this kind of discussion.<p>As for Nei's new looks, that's one of my major gripes with the remade character designs. I don't think she looks 'slutty', though. I think rather that she looks too 'tame' (as opposed to ferocious, that is). The frills on her outfit and the new collar add considerably to this impression. She doesn't make that feline impression of her original anymore.<p>But as I said already, my main concern is with the story and we can't say much about this part of the game until it is released.
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Phantasy Star 2 Remake - Screen Shots have been out!

Postby Hero » Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:59 pm

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by Benoit</i><p>I don't like the new character designs. It's true that some of them now correspond to their character settei mentioned in the Phantasy Star Compendium, but I don't like the results.<p>Rolf now looks like less of a man, and less determined.<br>Nei has had her design bothed with the frills and the unnecessary, disgusting change of her collar. Her face is ugly as well.<p>Looking at the screenshots, the game doesn't seem anything special. It looks like the same game, but only with more colors. Bah.<br></blockquote><p>you're way too over-critical. what did you expected? it looks almoust perfect to me: graphics, maps, character design, battle field, storyline hasn't been changed as you can see and that what makes it so cool. it looks so alike to original design, all what has been change is the quallity of the graphics, textures are more richer, battles are quite nicely improved, it even has a background in it, what makes it a blast for my oppinion for a console such as PS2. would you like it more if it would be whole in 3D, to have an unrecognizible new battle system, with chars you cant even identify like Kain from Huhn? would you like to see that? it's so alike to the original Phantasy Star 2 and i'm so glad about it that they havent changed it too much. charakter desing looks cool to me. <br>Nei's ugly? rofl ! look how cute she is ^^ that bandana on her neck looks great~ <br>rolf is less a man.. geez how did you expected him to look like? he looks right under his age, a confident, well-built young Paseo agent. everything fits well to me. cant you give it just a little bit credit instead of criticizing Mostly everything peaple are working on so hard to do their best on restoring our beloved games? show some respect...<p>i'm so glad that Phantasy Star 2 is finnally been remade and after all these years has been brought up to life. it's so familiar to original one. overall, i give it 9.5 out of 10
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Phantasy Star 2 Remake - Screen Shots have been out!

Postby Hero » Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:10 pm

That teleport babe is so hot ^^ <br>man these girs are cute!~
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Phantasy Star 2 Remake - Screen Shots have been out!

Postby Saner2 » Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:53 pm

well said Hero, what you said on page 2 is true. ^_^ <p>we should show some respect cause this remake is looking to be very identical to the original game. so what that the new character designs are a little different. you are nitpicking too deep and you'll never enjoy the game. <p>they are even brining back the blue battle grid as an option! that goes to show how much they care about the original experience! <p>other remakers would ditch the fact it takes place in Algo, and turn Rolf into a guy with lost memories that involve a silver haired villain who burned his village and Nei would be Rolf's love interest, etc. etc. <p>so lets be happy and accept how awesome the PSII remake will be. :)
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Phantasy Star 2 Remake - Screen Shots have been out!

Postby Benoit » Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:31 pm

<blockquote>with chars you cant even identify like Kain from Huhn? would you like to see that? it's so alike to the original Phantasy Star 2 and i'm so glad about it that they havent changed it too much.</blockquote><br>Actually, some of the current character designs, mostly Kain's, don't look like their original at all. They've totally changed.<br> <blockquote>cant you give it just a little bit credit instead of criticizing Mostly everything peaple are working on so hard to do their best on restoring our beloved games? show some respect...</blockquote><br>Says the person that downloads and pirates software without any kind of moral.<br>Hypocrite...
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Phantasy Star 2 Remake - Screen Shots have been out!

Postby PSP » Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:42 pm

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by Benoit</i><br>Hypocrite...<br></blockquote><p>Look up definition of hypocrite plz k thx.<p>-Corey
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Phantasy Star 2 Remake - Screen Shots have been out!

Postby Werefox » Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:47 pm

And what would be wrong with the way he uses the word?
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