Sonic RPG for DS

[Abominae]

Well, I think that's just stupid. RPG's are the reason we have such hardcore gamers to begin with! Final Fantasy, Ultima, Dragon Warrior (Now: Dragon Quest), Phantasy Star, Might & Magic... They're the reason games have evolved into what they are now. The fan base of RPGs may not be as wide as other genre's, but most have been around long enough to know that there are several series that could stand to have an RPG made in their respective universes.

Sonic RPG was just waiting to happen... and considering how many sh*tty games Sega has been putting out, be glad this one looks like it's going to kick a lot of ass.

[IndispensablePeaGuy]

blah, blah, blah, stupid, rpg crap, blah...[/color]

I prefer something new, thanks. Not the overused RPG elements I seem to see in games these days.

[Heroic_Chaz]

For once, Peegai, I wholeheartedly agree with you. RPG's these days are going stale. The only rpg series that changes game by game is Final Fantasy. First was the classic, second they had the new, if complicated experience system, third... haven't played... fifth was the first to introduce the front line/back line thing, fifth had the careers, sixth was the first appearance of optional party members, seventh had ATB and materia, eighth had the GF system, nine had techniques that had to be taught by mastering weapons, 10 had the sphere grid, 11 is an mmo, 12 has gambits and such... and I have yet to see 13. Other than Final Fantasy, hardly any other series changes its colors.

[BenoitRen]

RPGs have been going stale since 1995. Yes, even Final Fantasy. They introduce a new gameplay tidbit every game, but those are not original ideas at all. FFXII was a fresh idea, though.

seventh had ATB and materia

ATB has existed since FFIV.

[Zucca]

I'm getting fed up of games incorporating RPG elements. It's boring.

And Sega hasn't produced a decent Sonic game since 1994/95 with Sonic & Knuckles. I care little for the 3D crap.

I have to agree at some level. I, too, don't care much about 3D.
But I guess I'm just a retrogamer.

But changing games to RPG... Well I like the idea. But nowdays it seems that every RPG is somekind of realtime RPG. But without it online RPG's wouldn't be that cool. It's sad that turn based RPG's are going away. Or at least I feel so. I haven't played much 'new' games since Star Craft.

EDIT: I cannot belive how big quote war you guys got from this tooic...

[Abominae]

While it's true RPG's have been going stale in most cases, people have failed to find those rare gems that truly stand out.

In my GBA collection, I have:

Phantasy Star Complete (my ass) Collection *+
The Legend of Zelda: The Four Swords (A.L.T.T.P.) *
The Adventures of Link
Golden Sun *
Golden Sun: The Lost Age
Summon Knight: A Swordcraft Story *
Yggdra Union: We'll Never Fight Alone
Fire Emblem
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
Shining Soul
Lunar Legend *

And I've enjoyed each and every one of these games.

* - denotes games I've finished
+ - denotes completed multi-game paks


I've also a list of about 10 other GBA titles (Mostly RPGs) that I fully intend to collect and finish. So don't give me this crap that you can't find ANY good RPG titles today. You're just being lazy and not looking.

[BenoitRen]

I don't think anyone said that there are no more good RPGs today. Good games can come out while still being stale as a genre.

[Neo48]

If y'all need something fresh then play Guitar Hero/Rock Band.

[Zucca]

Ok. I admit. Maybe I've been lazy finding any good RPG's.
And I have to correct my statement bit more: I HAVE played a new good RPG: http://zeldamobile.gorthwogh.net
Or it's more like puzzle game, but anyway. ;) Worked quite good on my Nokia E70.

[meteor9]

Modern RPGs going stale? Seriously? We've never had more variety in our RPG choices than we've had in the last ten years. Between 1985 and 1990, nearly all RPGs out there were just Dragon Quest clones or Dragon Quest cloning itself. And things weren't really much better in the 16-bit days, aside from your Tales of Phantasias, Star Oceans, and maybe PS4s (hey, comic-style cutscenes really added a lot to that game, and not many RPGs had anything remotely similar at that point). Then the Playstation era hit, and you've got stuff like Xenogears, Shadow Hearts, Wild Arms, Final Fantasy Tactics, and Suikodens to really bring home the idea that RPGs are actually fun and interesting.

So, perhaps, the PS2 era is still riding on the high of PS1 era RPGs, but both systems are still relatively recent, and it's really silly to say that RPGs are stale NOW when they've been more varied and original than ever before.

[Neo48]

To add to that, modern technology has made it so that we have many choices these days:

MMORPG
Action RPGs (online or off)
Turn-based RPGs (online or off)
Adventure RPGs
Forum RPGs
Board Game RPGs (Take a look at the upcoming Dokapon Kingdom)
RTS-RPG (Spore)
Passive RPGs

The list can go on and on. Hell, even Guitar Hero/Rock Band could be seen as a modern RPG. Robust character creation, develope your own play style that works for you. Team up with people or play against them online.

The more I think about it, the more I think we've only left the stale era. There are just too many options now.

[BenoitRen]

meteor9, the games you mentioned were either cut-scene fests or strategy RPGs.

[meteor9]

meteor9, the games you mentioned were either cut-scene fests or strategy RPGs.

As opposed to Grindfests or Dragon Quest Clone 2: The Sequeling? I'm not so sure that I'm too upset about that.

Look, all I'm saying is that the RPG industry is huge and varied these days, when in the past, during the GOOD Phantasy Star era, it was not. Which is why Phantasy Star was so loved, I'd imagine. It was wildly different from all the other crap at the time.

[BenoitRen]

The very early RPGs were grindfests. Then they evolved to have much less grinding and more focus on character and story development.

Strategy RPGs and action RPGs already existed back in the day.

[Zucca]

meteor9, the games you mentioned were either cut-scene fests or strategy RPGs.

As opposed to Grindfests...

What?

Grindfest? Cut-scene fests?