Is Lutz... Noah?

[LaconianShot]

Indeed, Mizehrith. Long time no speak.

[Dorrinal Blackmantle]

DezoPenguin:<p>I. Interesting points about the word Nei. I'll have to think about it some more.<p>II. Noah/Lutz is indeed drek. ^_^ But about Myau, "sucking the fun" out of it will not change the facts. Corollary: just because you believe it doesn't make it true <p>III. I'll get back to you on that (Aeroprism), I'm not sure Occam's Razor will help you here...<p>IV. Thank you!! We have the most stubborn people here in the PS Community. There's no hope in getting many them to admit that you can't use the Japanese games to provide evidence for the US games.

[Benoit]

<blockquote>IV. Thank you!! We have the most intelligent people here in the PS Community.</blockquote><br> %)

[Dorrinal Blackmantle]

Give it up, Benoit.<p>Change a story and you get a different continuity.<p>Smallville created a new Superman story.<p>Localization created a new Phantasy Star story.

[Gipper]

The story is essentially the same; the only change is different names, really. How else could you explain it...Motavia can't be in two places at once.

[Dorrinal Blackmantle]

Ever seen Star Wars?<p>Mos Eisley cantina. Who shoots first: Han Solo or the bounty hunter?<p>Depends on which version of the movie you see

[Gipper]

So if you beat the Yellow Dam before the Red Dam, then the entire PS story is different, and instead of going to Dezo, everything returns to normal, Rolf settles down, marries Amy, and we all live happily ever after, then, right? But going to the Yellow Dam before the Red Dam as opposed to the other way around <b>is also a different version of the game</b>.

[Benoit]

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by Dorrinal Blackmantle</i><p>Give it up, Benoit.<p>Change a story and you get a different continuity.</blockquote><br>It depends on how much the story was changed. If I change one name, do I get a different story?<p>The story is esstially the same. It's useless to nit-pick.

[PSP]

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by Dorrinal Blackmantle</i><br>Ever seen Star Wars?<p>Mos Eisley cantina. Who shoots first: Han Solo or the bounty hunter?<p>Depends on which version of the movie you see<br></blockquote><p>The bounty hunter, because George Lucas, creator of Star Wars says so. Bit of a difference.<p>Meanwhile, one of the translators from PSI was interviewed and said Lutz and Noah were the same, it was just a bad translation. I believe that was in the official Sega PSIV strategy guide.<p>-Corey

[Siren]

Wait...was the <b>translator</b> a Japanese guy? Because if so, he doesn't count. He's from an entirely different continuity.

[Monocromatico]

The different continuities are a recurrence. The chineses are pissed off at the japaneses because their History books tell a totally different History! (hiding ugly facts about the japanese invasion of China during WWII, which is present in other History books.)<p>Japan is a totally different universe!

[Baron Von Shleppinstein]

<blockquote><i>Posted by Dorrinal Blackmantle</i> <p>Ever seen Star Wars? <br>Mos Eisley cantina. Who shoots first: Han Solo or the bounty hunter? <p>Depends on which version of the movie you see<br></blockquote> <p>So you're saying that the original series is incompatible with the newer versions? Meaning that information that is gained from one should be completely disregarded in the other? To take this to such an extreme seems kind of silly. They are hardly different continuities, merely different versions in the same fictional universe. <p>Especially when it's something so minor as the translation of a name. <p>- Baron Von Shleppinstein

[Benoit]

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by Siren</i><p>Wait...was the <b>translator</b> a Japanese guy?</blockquote><br>Yes, I already mentioned that a couple of times... -_-

[ThePeaGuy]

Myau of Algol was spot on when she wrote this rant in regards to this ongoing debate.<p><blockquote>What Myau of Algol wrote: <br>The root problem with believing that "seperate but equal" cannons exist is a logic fault. Phantasy Star is not a living, breathing world -- it is a fictional work, that has been chopped, hacked, and played around with in every single game. It's just a static videogame, and videogame stories do not have to follow a compulsory pattern of logic like our reality is forced to. It is nothing more than a bunch of written scripts and lines of code on a computer screen. Because of this fact, if an error occurs, this allows anyone the freedom to look at it and say, "There is an error in this code. A used to equal B, but in this edited version of code, it no longer does. It now equals C, and in the perspective to the entire program, it does not follow the correct logic. Therefore, I am allowed to pronounce that A equals B instead of C." Here, I am referring to errors more as an important fact in a Japanese version, which has been modified to the point where said error actually is a big deal, because the original Japanese games are the reason why the English versions even exist, and thus take precedence. <br></blockquote> <p><p>[size=small][Edit by ThePeaGuy on [TIME]1115588778[/TIME]][/size]

[Alis in Wonderland]

slightly off topic, but this is hy i don't give a flying frog about my country. japan are the ultimate authority on everything important to me. japan will decide my fate- when i get to play the next phantasy star, if they deign to translate it into my language. they could change the name of my character at will. i can't argue with them because they, like gods, are the original creators. they can do what the hell they want with any part of the world i spend at least ninety percent of my time with my head inside. it's very scary when you think about it that one country, and a handful of corporations in that country, have so much power over my life. so why should i care about England who cant even get the trains to run on time?<p>true, there are games developers in lots of countries other than Japan but they're rarely major console game series like PS.<p> <blockquote><br>Change a story and you get a different continuity.</blockquote> <p>contradiction in terms. a continuity means something that STAYS THE SAME.