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Twilight Princess in the LoZ timeline.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:56 pm
by IndispensablePeaGuy
Can someone fill me in where TP is supposed to fit in the Zelda timeline? I've heard rumours that the storyline takes place after the events after OoT, but I'm not too sure about that.

Feel free to debate over the timeline, if you want. Derailing is welcome here.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:13 pm
by BenoitRen
I made this timeline many months ago for a similar discussion:

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:29 am
by LaconianShot
Hey Benoit, mind explaining precisely how you can substantiate your diagram? I'm not sure that I agree or disagree, but I want to here your justification.
(And it seems that the Legend of Zelda timeline is rather hazy. Nintendo has never been entirely clear about it.)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:15 pm
by thriwren
BenoitRen wrote:I made this timeline many months ago for a similar discussion:

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My self, would either mad a new tangent from Ocarina or switch TP with Wind. I do beleive Ocarina made to different timelines, one Where Ganondorf invades Hyrule Castle and then "time Stops" for the Hyrule castle, leading to WW and then another where Link returns as an adult and save the day.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:09 pm
by BenoitRen
The events of Ocarina of Time created a split timeline. The game essentially has two endings. In the future Ganondorf is sealed in the Sacred Realm after 7 years of terror. In the present Ganondorf never acquires the Triforce of Power.

According to interviews and the background the game, Wind Waker takes place after the 7 years of terror, where Ganondorf has been sealed in the Sacred Realm. We also learn that he was able to break free, and the people prayed that the Hero of Time would return. He did not, thus they prayed to the gods, and they flooded the land. The game takes place hundreds of years after Ocarina of Time's future.

Majora's Mask takes place in the world as Ocarina of Time, but in a different place. Link having received the Ocarina of Time from Zelda supports this.

Twilight Princess shows us a Hyrule that has not been flooded, and takes place at least 100 years since Ocarina of Time. The game also tells what happened to Ganondorf when he didn't obtain the Triforce of Power. An interview supports this, mentioning that after Link returned from the future, the relationship between him and Zelda and Ganondorf changed.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:58 pm
by Neo48
Umm, just one question. I seem to recall some TP cinematics with Ganondorf having the Triforce of Power on his hand...

Well.. Along time ago..

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:57 am
by Lord Khyron
Back in 2003, there was an OFFICIAL timeline of the Zelda games.

It even explained the 3 links and Zeldas. The Link in Zelda 2 was Link 3. The Zelda was Zelda 3. Cause come Zelda 2, 2 Zelda's existed at the same time.

I wish the timeline was still on the net..

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:56 pm
by BenoitRen
It was likely just a fan's imagination. There is no overarching timeline for all Legend of Zelda games.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:17 am
by LaconianShot
Have to agree with Benoit... I don't think there's ever been an official timeline released, or you could've bet that it would still be on the internet. Hell, it would probably be on a Nintendo site, because that's a pretty big deal.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:51 pm
by thriwren
I think they never fully gave a timeline. Nintendo has mentioned that some games are set before the other. Some are obvious that they are and others are ambiguously in between.

This was a timeline before WW

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:48 pm
by Lord Khyron
Before WW.

WHat gets me is.. people still insist the Zelda sleeping in Zelda 2 is the same one as in the first Zelda. It isn't!

The manual specifically states that Zelda has been aslep for hundreds of years and each daughter born would have the name Zelda.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:51 am
by LegoMuskCat
This topic reminds me of a very detailed look I've seen regarding the Zelda timeline. The video for this was on YouTube.

We do have the creator saying..

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:49 am
by Lord Khyron
Miyamoto has said:

"Ocarina of Time is the first story, then the original Legend of Zelda, then Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, and finally A Link to the Past. It's not very clear where Link's Awakening fits in--it could be anytime after Ocarina of Time"

With that we can possibly put a timeline together.

I still find it nifty that Link has to put up with 2 Zelda's after Zelda 2..

OLD HAG and Young one XD ROFL..

Also.. the official players guide to Zelda 2 directly contradicts the instruction book data. I consider the instruction book plot to be THE TRUE story of Zelda.

For the Players guide contradicts both 1 and 2.

P.S. These two links are somewhat official based on a Miyamoto interview.. It gives the Older/young link timelines.. But ALTTP is still the very end.. It has to be, Miyamoto said so.

http://www.zeldalegends.net/index.php?p=233

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:38 am
by BenoitRen
Miyamoto has said:

"Ocarina of Time is the first story, then the original Legend of Zelda, then Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, and finally A Link to the Past. It's not very clear where Link's Awakening fits in--it could be anytime after Ocarina of Time"

What. The. Hell. I've never seen an interview where he said that.

The timeline you linked is mostly correct. But it desperately tries to link A Link to the Past and the two original games, which are separate.

Benoit.. I found something..

PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:15 pm
by Lord Khyron
I knew I read something like it in 2003.. Here you go:

http://www.miyamotoshrine.com/theman/in ... 0403.shtml

Superplay: So that's why the third game looked like the first one?

Shigeru Miyamoto: Exactly. We actually see A link to the Past as the real sequel to Legend of Zelda. Zelda II was more of a side story about what happened to Link after the events in Legend of Zelda.


So if we follow that logic it is: Zelda 1 - Zelda 2 sidestory - Zelda: ALTTP

So we have Z:ALTTP being the last game as of 2003...