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Posted: **Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:33 pm**

Well... Here it is... (Left to right, obviously...)

And there it is... Translators welcome!

Posted: **Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:06 pm**

I can confirm that this is the same text as at http://page.freett.com/naknak/game/ps/k ... /m061.html , to which a tentative translation has been provided in this thread. There are some possible clues to punctuation that might have been omitted in the screens, however.

I've transcribed the text below, for easier tackling by a translator willing to give it a try (a somewhat improved translation is interspersed below, please see the thread linked to above for notes, however):

※ きくがよい！
われらは　パルマという　ほしの　まつえい…
* Hark!
We are descendants of the planet Palma...

かつて、アルゴルたいようけいちゅう、もっとも
うつくしく　かがやくと　いわれた　パルマ…
Palma, the most beautiful and shining [world] in the Algol star system...

ひとは、あいするひとから　あたえられるものより
おおくを　のぞまず
Because they were a loving people, they had a great desire for generosity

あいするひとの　のぞむよりおおくを　あたえる...
それが　よろこびだった、パルマの　ひとびと...
A generous, loving people...
They were a happy people, the Palmans...

その　パルマじんの　まつえいが　われらであり
おまえたちでもある…
We are the descendants of those Palmans,
and so, then, are You...

※ きくがよい！
われらは　パルマという　ほしの　まつえい…
* Hark!
We are descendants of the planet Palma...

「ははなる　ほし」パルマで
われらの　せんぞは　こうふくにくらしていた。
On the 'Mother Planet' Palma, our ancestors lived in happiness.

だが、1000ねんに1ど　あらわれるという
「じゃあくな　ちから」のために
However, every 1000 years with the reappearance of the so called 'Evil Force,'

わが　パルマは　ほろんでしまった…
our Palma was ravaged...

※ きくがよい！
われらは　パルマという　ほしの　まつえい…
* Hark!
We are descendants of the planet Palma...

2000ねんまえ
えいゆう　オハリオと　アイナが
2000 years ago,
the heroes Ohario and Aina

パルマに　あらわれた「じゃあくな　ちから」に
たたかいを　いどんだ。
challenged and made battle with the 'Evil Force' that had appeared on Palma.

だが……
かてなかった………
However......
They lost......

※ きくがよい！
われらは　パルマという　ほしの　まつえい…
* Hark!
We are descendants of the planet Palma...

オハリオと　アイナが　やぶれたことを　しり
ひとびとは　パルマを　すてることにした。
With the defeat of Ohario and Aina, the people realised they had to abandon Palma.

かれらは、400せきもの　うちゅうせんを
ひそかに　つくりあげた。
In secret, they constructed 400 spaceships.

そして、「じゃあくな　ちから」が
パルマを　ほろぼす　ちょくぜんに
But then the 'Evil Force' obliterated Palma just before

LASER BEAMS OF DEATH！！！

だっしゅつしたのだ…
their escape...

※ きくがよい！
われらは　パルマという　ほしの　まつえい…
* Hark!
We are descendants of the planet Palma...

400せきの　うちゅうせんは
「じゃあくな　ちから」から　のがれようとした。
The 400 spaceships fled from the 'Evil Force'.

しかし、「じゃあくな　ちから」の　いちぶは
すでに　われらの　ふねに　はいりこんでいた。
But a part [or parts] of the 'Evil Force' had already boarded our ships.

そのため、1せき、また1せきと　ほろんでゆき
「オラキオとライアの　じだい」には　
Because of this, one after the other, they were bound to go under
In the 'Era of Orakio and Laya'

この「アリサ3せい」と、「ネオパルマ」の
2せきだけになってしまった…
our 'Alisa III' and the 'Neopalm,' were the only two ships left...

Back in town...

※ れきしの　かたりべたちの　はなしを　きくがよい。
You had better listen to what the tellers of history have to say!

※ ここ、「ひそやかな　むら　ファウンダウリ」で、
なんじらは、うしなわれた　れきしを　しるだろう。
Here, in 'the quiet village of Faundauri,' You can learn our lost history.

I've added the ※ for easier cross-referencing with the site mentioned above.

Posted: **Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:43 pm**

NO GOOD! Now I'm even more confused than I was when I started... 1,000 years ago, Orakio and Laya were killed by Dark Force... HOWEVER

2000ねんまえ
えいゆう　オハリオと　アイナが
2000 years ago,
the heroes Ohario and Aina

Our theory was that it said 2,000 years ago they LEFT Palma, now, 2000 years ago was this??? WHEN THE HELL DID YOU PEOPLE LEAVE PALMA!?

Posted: **Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:33 pm**

To me it seems that Ohario and Aina were contemporary to Rolf and co. That is what the compendium says, and what is rumoured to be mentioned in the Ages remake of PS2, according to the the Japanese Wikipedia article on PS3.

Besides, it doesn't say they were killed, just defeated. Though I have nothing but anecdotal evidence and hunches to support it, my theory on that matter is that they were not killed, but were instrumental in organising the evacuation, and eventually ended up on Alisa III (with that name, it is reasonable to assume that it is one of the more important ships, and since they were leaders of the resistance, it would be logical for them to be on that one). They were both of the Sa Riik family, it said somewhere, and also by blood related to Lassic and thus to the Landales. I think that Orakio and Laya are both their descendants -- Laya of Aina, and Orakio of Ohario (or both of both, in case they started a family together).

Posted: **Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:41 am**

I don't see nearly enough evidence to back up your theory, but I seriously like it, big time... It makes a lot of sense, and since there is NO information being said of the two, this could be quite possible... I wonder if Aina was a Esper of some sort, as all Layan people are gifted in magic... I also wonder, they said that the lands were wiped clean in the intro of PS3... Perhaps ALL layans are within Aina's family tree, and ALL orakians are within Ohario... I doubt they would had made love (or whatever you guys call it, I call it making love, cause I'm in love) because then, everyone would have a mixture of power, AND magic, like any forth generation character, where even if just a TOUCH of Layan is in them, they have magic, and if even a TOUCH of Orakian is in them, they can use "hero equipment".

NICE theory, I seriously like it, man.

edit: Forth Generation? Bed time for me... *Third Generation

Posted: **Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:21 am**

skymandr wrote:
2000ねんまえ
えいゆう　オハリオと　アイナが
2000 years ago,
the heroes Ohario and Aina

パルマに　あらわれた「じゃあくな　ちから」に
たたかいを　いどんだ。
challenged and made battle with the 'Evil Force' that had appeared on Palma.

だが……
かてなかった………
However......
They lost......

※ きくがよい！
われらは　パルマという　ほしの　まつえい…
* Hark!
We are descendants of the planet Palma...

オハリオと　アイナが　やぶれたことを　しり
ひとびとは　パルマを　すてることにした。
With the defeat of Ohario and Aina, the people realised they had to abandon Palma.

かれらは、400せきもの　うちゅうせんを
ひそかに　つくりあげた。
In secret, they constructed 400 spaceships.

そして、「じゃあくな　ちから」が
パルマを　ほろぼす　ちょくぜんに
But then the 'Evil Force' obliterated Palma just before

To me, this looks like Ohario and Aina were fighting their own battle on Palma at the time Rolf & co. were doing pretty much the same on Motavia.
Ohario and Aina lived 2000 years before the events of PSIII.
This would mean that the events of PSIII happened 1000 years after PSIV.

Posted: **Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:45 am**

uh huh

Posted: **Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:59 pm**

skymandr wrote:To me it seems that Ohario and Aina were contemporary to Rolf and co. That is what the compendium says, and what is rumoured to be mentioned in the Ages remake of PS2, according to the the Japanese Wikipedia article on PS3.

I don't see any such reference in the Japanese wiki article, nor do I remember such a reference in the remake itself. Can you give me more details on this?

-Corey

Posted: **Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:45 am**

Er... All the details are right there in the translation... It's why me an sky went through all the trouble of getting the information. I got that far playin the Japanese rom, and Sky translated it... Read it all, it's the ONLY information about this the original Japanese rom provided...

Thas right, we got more info than the Wiki... Wiki isn't a Phantasy Starologist!

Posted: **Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:26 pm**

PSP wrote:I don't see any such reference in the Japanese wiki article, nor do I remember such a reference in the remake itself. Can you give me more details on this?

Absolutely! Here is a link directly to the footnote mentioning it:
Link to the footnote in the Japanese Wikipedia article on PS3

What do you make of that?

Posted: **Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:25 pm**

It's all Greek, er, Japanese to me.

Posted: **Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:35 pm**

Edge wrote:Er... All the details are right there in the translation... It's why me an sky went through all the trouble of getting the information. I got that far playin the Japanese rom, and Sky translated it... Read it all, it's the ONLY information about this the original Japanese rom provided...

I wasn't questioning your information, which is clearly supported by screenshots, I was questioning the mention of Ohario or Aina in PSG:2.

skymandr wrote:Absolutely! Here is a link directly to the footnote mentioning it:
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%99%82% ... ite_note-0

What do you make of that?

Ahh, the footnote. I just saw that it mentioned "ファンタシースターII 還らざる時の終わりに" instead of "ファンタシースター generation:2" and figured it was some reference to continuity between the original games. My fault for not reading more closely.

That's interesting though. I don't remember seeing a mention of Ohario in the remake or anyone making a mention of it in the fan community (since some of the people I knew were quite pissed that PSIII was being excluded from the AGES project from the onset, I'm sure one of them would have chimed in at the fan service such a mention would provide), though it's been about 5 years since I played through. Maybe it's time for another play through (I still need to revive Nei anyway)...

-Corey

Posted: **Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:08 pm**

And the Lord leads his nerd flock from heaven...

Posted: **Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:49 am**

Link to JP Wikipedia I see a timeline!

Posted: **Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:45 am**

I see a link that's way too long.

Trimmed.

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