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Laconian Dagger (PS2)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:40 pm
by Zucca
Genesis PS2 has quite strange statistics for Laconian Dagger.
While normal knife has attack bonus of 5, Laconian Dagger has 4.
Sad, since it would have been quite good weapon for Shir.
Currently I'm having Shir equipped with Truth sleeves and Mirror emel. She's using Storm Gear (GiZan to all enemy groups, not just one group) in battles to attack.
I have strong feeling that there's a case of "missing zero" in the statistics of Laconian Dagger.
Does anyone know if any other versions of PS2 have this same occurrence (Japan version, PS Generaion 2)?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:14 pm
by BenoitRen
Yeah, it always seemed strange to me that the Laconian Knife was weaker than the Laser Knife. It probably doesn't mean anything, but I played the PAL version.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:08 am
by Zucca
Yup. (I was previously talking about Laconian knife when I should have talked about Laconian dagger)
I think it's an typing error in the code. Here's some statistics:

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Weapon              | Attack | Defence
Knife               |    5   |     0
Dagger              |    8   |     1
Laser Knife         |   28   |     5
Laconian Dagger     |    4   |    22

Does not make any sense. No other weapon has that low attack bonus.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:33 pm
by suoturska
Apparently it's fixed in the Playstation 2 remake. While the other weapons in that table have the same stats, the Laconian Dagger has 45 attack and 7 defense.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:37 pm
by Abominae
Even if the attack and defense were reversed (to look like a normal knife) it would still be a weaker weapon.

Subsequently... did they release the PS1/2 remakes for the US after all?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:36 am
by Zucca
Abominae wrote:... did they release the PS1/2 remakes for the US after all?[/color]

I quess not. ;( I would have bought Playstation 2 then. Like I bought Sega Saturn for PS Collection. :P And yet, I don't have that game. I mainly wanted it because of improved musics and graphics.
But I watched some YouTube videos of PS Gen. 2 and I wasn't impressed by the musics. Do they have to add Xylophone to _every_ music? At least it sounds like it. *cling clong* Feels like the musics were made for five years old or younger. I wonder if it is same with Saturn PS Collection. And how about GBA version?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:43 pm
by Cuber
I like the PS Gen music.. I think it's better my self. >.>;

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:46 pm
by Heroic_Chaz
I have to agree with Zucca. I was embarassed to play it with the sound up. My sister once actually asked if I was playing and EC (Early Childhood) rated game.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:48 pm
by Cuber
Wow.. that's kind of... odd. >.>;
I really can't see it my self... I suck. :?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:53 pm
by Heroic_Chaz
Aw, don't be so hard on yourself. Just because I don't like it doesn't mean it's bad. It just means it's not the type of music I enjoy... then again, I don't like a lot of the music in PS2 to begin with... except the fights. To be truthful, I found PS3 to have the best overworld music. It actually built up after every character that joined!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:56 pm
by Cuber
PS3 is cool with how it does that. xP

... I still need to finish it. I'm on to Sean now... first play through.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:58 pm
by Heroic_Chaz
I beat it and cried because the ending is the same with ALL the characters, mroe or less. I found myself screaming at the game because they're all the same lol.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:02 pm
by Mono
PSIII had 4 different endings the last time I checked :^P

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:17 pm
by Heroic_Chaz
They're only SLIGHTLY different...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:09 pm
by Zucca
Still worth playing. :)